This episode is the second and final installment of a two-part interview featuring guest host Jim McNamara and retired FDNY Captain Alexander Hagan. Captain Al began his career in 1973 and served in some of the FDNY’s busiest companies. After 35 years of service in the field, he decided to become part of union leadership. Hagan began his union service as the Captain’s Rep, and then the President of the Uniformed Fire Officers Association. Be sure to listen to Part I of the interview which covered leadership, human performance and organized labor. In Part II, Jim and Captain Al continue their exploration of civil unrest and fiscal austerity.